Wikipedia:WikiProject Color/Sources for Color Coordinates
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This project page lists suggested sources for coordinates to use in Template:Infobox Color.
[edit] Suggested sources
- HTML/CSS color names. While X11 names were the original, the HTML/CSS values should be used when not conflicting with the X11 coordinates because they specify the color space.
- Source: W3C TR CSS3 Color Module
- Suggested value for source parameter: [[Web colors#HTML color names|HTML/CSS]]<ref name="css3-color">[http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#html4 W3C TR CSS3 Color Module, HTML4 color keywords]. W3C. (May 2003). Retrieved on 11 July 2009.</ref>
- X11 color names. When the HTML/CSS and X11 names conflict this source should also be used. Unlike the HTML/CSS color names the X11 names do not specify the RGB space and include several variations of darker or lighter shades of a number of web colors.
- Source: xfree86.org rgb.txt
- Alternate source: x.org rgb.txt freedesktop.org rgb.txt
- Suggested value for source parameter: [[X11 color names]]<ref name="xfree-rgb">[http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/*checkout*/xc/programs/rgb/rgb.txt?rev=1.1 X11 rgb.txt]. XFree86. (February 1994). Retrieved on 11 July 2009.</ref>
- W3C TR CSS3 Color Module, HTML4 color keywords HSL Color Charts: – Lists of official HTML, X11, and SVG color names and RGB coordinates; plus HSL Color Charts for calculating the hsl values for any color. The charts are halfway down the website. There are 12 charts, one for each of the 12 colors at 30 degree intervals on the HSV color wheel: red,orange,yellow, chartreuse, green, spring green, cyan, azure, blue, violet, magenta, and rose. Hence is also the source for that example set of primary, secondary, and tertiary color names.
[edit] Disputed References
- A wikipedia article is never a source; this article has color coordinates, but they are unsourced. Online sources such as [1] imply numbers were sampled from this Crayola page, but the numbers themselves are not provided by Crayola, as far as I can tell. This page has what they call "rough approximations" for the color numbers, probably the same way. Dicklyon (talk) 06:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- ISCC-NBS Dictionary of Colo(u)r Names – 1955, at tx4.us – This site requires use of a Digital Color Meter (color coordinates not given). This site is used by stamp collectors to identify the color of their stamps. This site should be used with care because in some cases colors possessing identical hex codes are identified by different names in different parts of the alphabet. However, this site is excellent for accessing actual color names that have been in current use for at least fifty years.
- While this site may be a good source of color names, use of a digital color meter is original research and should not be used for coordinates Template:Infobox Color —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaleAqua (talk • contribs)
- I disagree that using this site is orginal research. The hex codes already implicitly exist in the color swatches shown on this website. It is merely a matter of doing a simple measurement of them, which should have been done by those who put this website on the Internet; they were apparently just too lazy to do it because there are so many hundreds of colors on this site. Just because they didn't put the hex code next to the samples is no reason for us to refrain from taking a simple reading of these color samples. These are historically valid color names that have been in use for at least fifty years. Many of the colors, however, are not notable (except those that are shades of a notable color) and it would be justified to exclude many of them for that reason. Another problem is that many of these colors have not been updated and upgraded to the brighter colors that it is possible to display on a computer. Keraunos 06:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldn't object to using the site to show the approximate appearance of named colors, but they make no claim to their exact numbers being correct or authoritative, so they're not a reliable source for color coordinates (or for much else, it looks like). Dicklyon (talk) 06:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree that using this site is orginal research. The hex codes already implicitly exist in the color swatches shown on this website. It is merely a matter of doing a simple measurement of them, which should have been done by those who put this website on the Internet; they were apparently just too lazy to do it because there are so many hundreds of colors on this site. Just because they didn't put the hex code next to the samples is no reason for us to refrain from taking a simple reading of these color samples. These are historically valid color names that have been in use for at least fifty years. Many of the colors, however, are not notable (except those that are shades of a notable color) and it would be justified to exclude many of them for that reason. Another problem is that many of these colors have not been updated and upgraded to the brighter colors that it is possible to display on a computer. Keraunos 06:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- HTML Color Chart at tx4.us--Chart displaying the colors of each of the 360 degrees of the HSV color wheel (from the ISCC-NBS website). (Note: The chart is at the bottom of the page about 90% of the way down.)
- Xona.com Color List--This site has color coordinates, but it is not an authoritative source--most of the color names are purely arbitrary inventions like the names in a paint store catalog (in fact a large percentage of the color names are from the RGB Values list of Resene Paint Ltd.); this site should only be used for colors that are not on the preceding five color source lists and that can be supplied with independent references as notable colors with evidence of a history of the use of the color name outside of this site.
- Colour Lovers--Website where people register their favorite colour. Keraunos 12:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Obviously not a reliable source, since anyone can put anything there; for example, I found a dozen or more "army green", none of which matched that army green that cited this site as its source. Dicklyon (talk) 06:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
