Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies

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The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:

• Talk:Pauley Perrette (Wedding coverage blog citations ) — User:Neutralhomer is repeatedly reverting edits to reinsert references to a self-published blog which contradict/describe as inadequate the coverage in sources that are generally considered reliable. The statements attributed to the article subject are controversial/contentious, and have no other apparent source. Under WP:BLP, these statements are to be removed, but User:Neutralhomer is edit warring to reinsert them. I cannot see any good faith issue here -- statements sourced from a blog report of the wedding, not found in any of the reliable-source coverage of the event, need to be removed from the article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 18:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Asmahan (RfC ) — There's a longstanding discussion of Asmahan's nationality. Several options have been discussed: one is to label her "Egyptian of Syrian-Lebanese origin" (this edit); another is to not mention her nationality in the lede at all, and merely state her origins and naturalizing in the paragraphs below (this edit). Which should be used, or is there another option? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Bjorn Sigurdsson (Whether this is a hoax or not ) — I have filed a request for comment, because I need more input about whether this is a hoax or not. When I first looked at this article, it was completely unsourced, and the text in the article seemed overdramatic and rather unlikely. This, in addition to a google and google news search coming up empty, caused me to put a suspected hoax tag on it. After adding it, User:Doggytime, the article creator, responded by adding some refs. However, these are offline references, and I have no way of verifying them. So, what do you guys think/suggest I do? I have notified Doggytime about this RFC so we can clear this up. Fingerz 11:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Adam Lambert (RfC: Are the "Order #" and "Results" columns in the performances section needed or encyclopedic? ) — Two editors have been reverting my removal of the "Order #" and "Results" columns from the Performances section. The "Order #" seems appropriate enough for a fansite of the show but certainly not for an encyclopedia article. It suggests that the order number had something to do with something but Wikipedia is the only one suggesting this so that seems like it's original research as well as being trivial. Many, most?, of the other Idol pages also have these extra columns but that doesn't mean that the David Archuleta, which I overhauled (also removing these columns) and took to GA status, or this article should also be degraded. Wikipedia:Other stuff exists is a bad reason to include something as a general rule.
  Then we have the "Results" column which scertainly seems completely redundant to - In May 2009, he finished as the runner-up on the eighth season of American Idol. - which is prominently in the lede. Absent any compelling reasons to keep this information I think it must again be removed. I'm sorry to do an RfC on this - I'm not seeing another option here. -- Banjeboi 19:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Herodotus (RfC) — The validity of the following text is contested. However, it is sourced, and the sources seem to give it as much or as little validity as much of the rest of the information we have about Herodotus, including his own writings, and assert it cannot be dismissed out of hand. Please weigh in. Haiduc (talk) 18:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Labh Singh (Are all these changes vandalism to be reverted? ) — Are all these changes vandalism to be reverted? (updated - sinneed (talk) 04:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Chris Brown (entertainer) (WP:NPOV and criminal conviction ) — There are concerns the coverage of Brown's criminal conviction are not being given proper weight, which gives the article a bias POV. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 21:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Woburn, Massachusetts (Form of citation required for "Notable residents" list ) — Suppose the Notable Residents list in the article on Anytown lists "John Smith," with a link to the Wikipedia article on Smith. The Smith article states (with citation) that Smith is/was a resident. Questions: (1) Does the Notable Residents list (back in the Anytown article) need to duplicate the citation supporting Smith's residence in Anytown? Or is the link to the main article on Smith sufficient citation? Also: (2a) Does the answer to (1) depend on whether Smith is still living? (2b) If so, is it appropriate for an editor to blank Anytown's entire Notable Residents list without regard for whether the various persons listed are living? I would appreciate assistance on resolving this. 74.92.43.201 (talk) 17:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Marc Gunn (RfC: seems to violate "original research" policy) — While I know Marc is a real person, this seems to be largely self-promotional and in violation of the original research policy. chupacerveza 17:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Bobby Fischer (RfC: Does the Kraktoa edit regarding Fishcers library have undue weight concerns? ) — Does the Kraktoa edit seen here, have Impartial tone concerns?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE#Impartial_tone states that "Even where a topic is presented in terms of facts rather than opinions, inappropriate tone can be introduced through the way in which facts are selected, presented, or organized. Neutral articles are written with a tone that provides an unbiased, accurate, and proportionate representation of all positions included in the article.".The Bobby Fischer article already mentions his antisemitism repeatedly and there really isn't any need to underline it any further.What we are talking about are only some books which were in the mans library nothing more really.--194x144x90x118 (talk) 20:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Syed Ahmed (RfC) — Is it appropriate to include this paragraph? The paragraph explains the subject's brief arrest over a loan given by a third party to the subject's then business partner. No charges were brought against anyone. Some editors consider that explaining the issue in sufficient detail requires violating WP:UNDUE, and that therefore it should simply not be mentioned. Disembrangler (talk) 10:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:E.O. Green School shooting (Is the article in violation of any wikipedia core policies? namely WP:NPOV ) — Generally, disputes have arisen regarding the neutrality of the last paragraph of the introduction, the use of Newsweek as a primary source for the article, and WP:UNDUE weight concerns regarding subject matter. Users are encouraged to respond after reading all information currently in the article to see if it is in fact violating any of the wikipedia policies mentioned. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:David Copperfield (illusionist) (RfC: The David Copperfield vs Paris Match lawsuit ) — May we mention the $30M lawsuit David Copperfield instituted against Paris Match about the "sham relationship" allegations with Claudia Schiffer? ► RATEL ◄ 05:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Andrew Peach (RFC ) — There's an ongoing edit war which beaically boils down to two editors who cannot agree on whether or not to include a particular piece of information. See here and here for typical edits. This has been going on for several weeks and is getting ridiculous. I've tried talking to the two editors concerned, but with little success. I have also removed the sentence concerned a couple of times in the past as I personally feel the information is not necessary, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if it stayed in. I just think it's time to resolve this as it's becoming disruprive. TheRetroGuy (talk) 19:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Robert Young (author) (RfC ) — Should general information about live blood analysis and alkaline diets that does not specifically mention Young or his specific claims go into Young's article or into the live blood analysis and alkaline diets articles? 06:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Birth/Death Dates: A debate over the relevance of an entry within the article, in which the years of birth and death of the subject's parents are mentioned. Three editors have said the dates don't belong, citing precedent and relevance, while one insists they need to stay, also citing relevance. -FeralDruid (talk) 15:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone ad info to my page about Charles Nesbitt, former attorney general of oklahoma, and also give me a hand with the citations?