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Requested moves is a place for requesting the retitling of an article, a template, or a page in the Wikipedia namespace. Any logged-in user who has been registered for more than four days and has made at least ten edits can use the [move] tab located at the top of each page to perform simple moves (see Help:Moving a page). However, administrator help is required in some situations. Such moves can be listed here.

In some situations the appropriateness of a move may be under dispute, and discussion is necessary in order to reach a consensus. There is no obligation to list such move requests here; discussions of page moves can always be carried out at the article's talk page without adding an entry. This page may be seen as a place to advertise move debates that would benefit from wider community input, or for users to request assistance from administrators in moving pages.

Most move requests are processed by a handful of regular contributors who are familiar with naming conventions, nonbinding precedents, and page moving procedures. Requests are generally processed after seven days, although backlogs of a few days develop occasionally. If there is a clear consensus after this time, the request will be closed and acted upon. If not, the administrator may choose to re-list the request to allow time for consensus to develop, or close it as "no consensus".

[edit] Processes beyond the scope of this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

[edit] Requesting uncontroversial moves

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial and technically possible, please feel free to move the page yourself. Moves are possible (for registered users with accounts over four days old) when the desired name is a red link, or in cases where the target is a simple redirect—a redirect to the current title, with no prior versions in its edit history. After moving a page, update its text to reflect the new title.

If the only obstacle to an uncontroversial move is a navigation aid (e.g. a redirect or an unnecessary disambiguation page with a minor edit history), the template {{db-move}} can be used instead to have that page deleted under criterion for speedy deletion G6.

If there has been any past debate about the best title for the page, or if anyone could reasonably disagree with the move, then treat it as controversial. Otherwise, post your request in the Uncontroversial requests section of this page. If the page has recently been moved without discussion, then you may revert the move and initiate a discussion of the move on the talk page of the article. (See also: Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle.) If this reversion requires administrator assistance, it is also eligible to be listed here. When listing this kind of request, please include a link showing that you have attempted to discuss the page move first.

[edit] Requesting potentially controversial moves

Create a section at the bottom of the talk page of the page you have requested to be moved. It should be formatted like this:

==Requested move==

{{subst:move|NewName}} A brief reason as to why the name of the page should be changed. Limit this to a single paragraph. ~~~~

Instead of "Requested move", any name is allowed; however, "Requested move" is suggested. "NewName" is what you want the new name of the page to be.

This can also be done by clicking the "new section" tab on the talk page and inserting {{subst:RMtalk|Proposed new name|Reason for move.}} Note that the Subject/headline should be left blank, as the heading, Requested move, is created along with a location for survey and discussion by this template, and that the template must be subst'd. The template will automatically include your signature.

Optional: Add {{moveheader|section=Section}} at the top of the talk page, where "Section" is the name of the heading, if other than "Requested move" — {{moveheader}} will assume Requested move.

[edit] Moving several pages at once

Follow the above procedures for one of the pages being moved, creating a centralized location for discussion. Be sure to list all the other pages to be moved, and include your signature at the end of the request by including four tildes (~~~~).

==Requested move==

{{subst:move|NewFirstPage}} A brief reason as to why the name of the page should be changed.<br/>
[[SecondPage]] → [[NewSecondPage]]<br />
[[ThirdPage]] → [[NewThirdPage]]<br />
etc. ~~~~

For each other page to be moved, add {{Multimove|NewName|Talk:FirstPage}} to the top of its talk page. NewName is the proposed name for that page, and Talk:FirstPage is a link to the centralized discussion. Talk:FirstPage defaults to the section name "Requested move", so include a section heading if necessary. Note in the formatting shown above, you can force the list of moves to appear by including <br/> at the end of each line, but not by using an asterisk, * at the beginning of each line.

[edit] Uncontroversial requests

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any reasonable possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required. If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the Contested requests section below.

  • Volbeat (Pokemon)Volbeat (Pokémon) — The article was originaly made at the wrong place I guess. I wouldnt care, but if someone wanted to look for the history they would most likly look at (Pokémon) not (Pokemon). Thanks. — Blake (talk) 22:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Anton Felix SchindlerAnton Schindler — Never referred to by full name, always as simply Anton Schindler. No other Anton Schindler articles, so no need to disambiguate. No response at talk page since 19 June — JackofOz (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Contested requests

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move proposal, please do not discuss move proposals here. If you support a contested move proposal, please consider following the instructions above to add the proposed page move to the "Other proposals" section below by substituting the {{move}} template on the article's talk page. Proposals that remain here after seven days will be removed.

[edit] Current discussions

This list is also available in a page-link-first format.

[edit] July 11, 2009

[edit] July 10, 2009

  • (Discuss)PEBBLE (pagan organisation)PEBBLE — *I'm proposing a move, there's nothing else going by the acronym (if you can actually call it that) of PEBBLE so having (pagan organization) isn't necessary. Not to mention (organization) itself could have been substituted, pagan would only be needed if there were other organizations by that name. If anyone would like to take the initiative, or if no objections I'll try and come back and do it in a month or something. Tyciol (talk) 21:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Wikipedia:WikiProject California DeltaWikipedia:WikiProject California/California Delta task force — I believe this page would be better served as a sub-page of the WikiProject California. This appears to be a WikiProject that never got past having this page created and so this isn't really a conversion to a task force at this point. If interest in a task force related to the material covered in the scope increases then functions of a standard task force can be implemented (task force banner parameters and categories, etc.). Optigan13 (talk) 03:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Mazda AxelaMazda3 — Per WP:COMMONNAME. The car is available worldwide and well-known as "Mazda3", according to the article, the current name "Mazda Axela" was only used in Japan. Would be happy with "Mazda 3" if that fits Wikipedia naming conventions better. Aubergine (talk) 03:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 09, 2009

  • (Discuss)Eastern Orthodox Church? — I file an official request for move, since by some editors here it has been advocated that for the x or z reasons the current title is not satisfactory. Yannismarou (talk) 11:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)ZodakZodac — All current media currently refer to the character as Zodac. This includes Mattel's Masters of the Universe Classic toyline and character listings at He-Man.org. The spelling "Zodak" was only used in the 2002 MYP series. 70.174.163.68 (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)HsinchuXinzhu City — Either go with Huayu pinyin or back to its former name but not "Xinzhu District" because it is a city not a district.
    ASDFGH =] talk? 02:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 08, 2009

  • (Discuss)MAN Takraf RB293Bagger 293 — Reasons for the requested move: "Bagger 293" would be a better title because that name is used by the current owner (RWE) of the machine, and because "Man Takraf RB293" is an odd mixture of outdated names. * A few years ago "Man Takraf" (the manufacturer) changed its name to "Takraf". * A few years ago Rheinbraun (the previous owner) was overtaken by RWE, and the new owner refers to the excavator as Bagger 293 without the outdated initials RB. * The name "Man Takraf RB293" is odd because it mixes the manufacturer and the initials of the owner into one name. * In addition the proposed name would be more consistent with a similar article about its little brother, Bagger 288. *(May be the requested move is complicated by the fact that at present there is a redirection the other way around. Three pages ("RB293", "Takraf RB293", and "Bagger 293") are currently redirecting to "Man Takraf RB293"). Ceinturion (talk) 21:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)L (Death Note)L Lawliet — Seeing as L is the character's forename as opposed to a psuedonym, I believe that it would make more sense for this article to be at Forename Surname rather than Forename (disambiguator). We normally reserve the latter for cases where the surname is unknown, but if we take How to Read as canon, it isn't unknown at all. For example, Severus Snape is at the article although we rarely hear the word "Severus", if at all. Sceptre (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)AgoteCagot — Agote is the Basque term; Cagot is the Occitan term; Cacon is the Breton term. It is essentially arbitrary as to which version we pick in English; neither one is any more "right" than the other... but I definitely get the impression that Cagot is the most common term used in English (mildly confirmed by Google Scholar). It seems like the Cagots of Gascony and Bearn are the most extensively chronicled, and the prejudice took a very long time to die out there, so I think there's a weak preference for having the article at that title. SnowFire (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Sweet grassHierochloe odorata — Many other species (and genera) are known as "sweet grass", and so many people must come here looking for something else. In any case, Hierochloe odorata is known by many common names (nine so far in article). I therefore propose that the article is moved to the scientific name, with the various common names being dealt with by hatnotes and dabs. The current Sweet grass (disambiguation) would move to Sweet grass. Richard New Forest (talk) 08:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 07, 2009

  • (Discuss)Cloud Atlas (novel)Cloud Atlas — A two-item disambiguation page has been created at this page's original location of "Cloud Atlas", to disambiguate it from "a compendium of cloud types"; this links to List of cloud types, which doesn't actually use the term "cloud atlas" in its text. Given that Mitchell's book seems to be the primary use of the term, and that there are unlikely to be many other articles with the same title (there are rumours of a film, but I think that's all), I suggest moving it back, and adding a simple hatnote to the top of the article saying "For the compendium of cloud types, see list of cloud types." McGeddon (talk) 20:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 06, 2009

[edit] July 05, 2009

  • (Discuss)2009 Iranian election protests2009 Iranian election aftermath — The response to the election in Iran obviously involves more than just the protest(s). This was a good title at first, but I think that the events here have grown beyond just the protests. Also, considering Iranian history and the Islamic traditions of public mourning after 40 days, this is likely to become more involved over time.
    Ω (talk) 19:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)ChestnutCastanea — This article is about the genus Castanea, some of whose members are called "chestnut", and some "chinkapin" (chinquapin). "Chestnut" is not really a correct title, as the chinkapins are not called chestnuts. I therefore propose that the article title is changed to the same as the subject: "Castanea". The current disambiguation page Castanea would be deleted, and the one (really) other meaning of "Castanea" would be dealt with by a hatnote. Richard New Forest (talk) 17:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Mayagüez incidentMayaguez incident — This looks like a bit of overzealous adaption of the spelling of the Puerto Rican placename. From several sources I have consulted the ship's name was not registered with a ü, but with a regular u. Regardless of the ship's registered name, the common name principle should apply: the ship is referred to in contemporary news accounts as Mayaguez and not Mayagüez. Similarly, the incident—in the references listed in the article—is referred to as the Mayaguez incident (with no umlaut over the u).
    SS MayagüezSS Mayaguez — (see above for rationale.)
    Bellhalla (talk) 13:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 04, 2009

  • (Discuss)GyeongseongKeijo — As I said before, this article is about the time then Korea was a part of Japan, so it seems to be more natural to call the city in Japanese way. Also, according to Google, "Keijo" is used 10 times more often than "Gyeongseong" and old maps, such as this one use the name "Keijo". Elmor_rus (talk) 17:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Waikato (region/district)Waikato — Waikato is the common name for this region, which is the primary meaning of the term. Waikato already redirects here. Right now, there's a very confusing title for this page, which is unnecessary disambiguation. YeshuaDavidTalk • 00:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Backlog

  • (Discuss)Metro Station (band)Metro StationMetro Station is currently a redirect to this article, so it looks like the disambiguation isn't needed. Although most of the links are to this article, there have been a few changes to the redirect, and sometimes it has redirected to Metro station, so I don't know if a move would be uncontroversial. snigbrook (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)BallkidBall boy — I'm all for gender neutrality, but in this case the word "ballkid" is so very rarely used, and even if it were "ball kid" (with a space) would seem more correct gramatically. I'll suggest "ball boy" at the moment, simply as across all sports there appear to be more ball boys than ball girls. Note, I would propose moving the current "Ballboy" page to "Ball boy (disambiguation)" (done). Aubergine (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)2008 South Ossetia war2008 Russian-Georgian war — The earliest of the discussions barely qualifies as a discussion, and the one that was held after that was far too unfocused in getting down exactly why something should be the page title. I want to give all viewpoints equal opportunities to express their arguments, and I feel this is best done in a coordinated environment where the individual arguments are clearly delineated. It works like this: a subsection notes the proposal, and subsections underneath that for the reasons. After a period of time, a neutral party will close the discussion. I have decided that this person will not be me. Please, limit the discussion to be relevant to the name of the page, and not because of procedures. —harej (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)TauonTau (particle) — The name "tauon" is rarely used in the field of physics for the third generation lepton. The name "tau lepton" is occasionally used. The name "tau" or "τ" is nearly always used. I realize that this is inconsistent with the naming of the muon and the electron (second and first generation lepton, respectively), but wikipedia should describe, not prescribe, usage. The Wilschon (talk) 17:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Blackened (song)Blackened — This is the only entry listed on the disambiguation page Blackened that is not simply a partial title match. As there are no other articles which could be called "Blackened", the qualifier is unnecessary. Neelix (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)SamandaSam and Amanda Marchant — They have always been known as Sam and Amanda, even at their time in the house, the nickname was given to them by the press and is not used often other than their brief but minor pop career. Donnie Park (talk) 11:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Malformed requests

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