User talk:Robert Waalk

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Projects 3 User_talk:BrownHairedGirl#WP:BIO 4 Brownhairedgirl 5 Speedy deletion of "Jim Wood (Arkansas)" 6 Speedy deletion of James Hebert "Jimmie Red" Jones 7 Speedy deletion of Nancy Hall 8 Speedy deletion of Julia Hughes Jones 9 Welcome to the Novels WikiProject 10 Image:Books.jpg 11 Look Homeward Angel - Pogledaj dom svoj andjele 12 The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008 13 Reliable sources 14 Steppenwolf Picture 15 Onitsha (novel) 16 Novels Collaboration of the Month 17 WikiProject Novels Newsletter - June 2009 18 WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election 19 Coordinator Election

[edit] Welcome

Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Maximusveritas 02:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by "rating"? I can go through and make additional edits. One major thing is that you don't want to talk in 1st person, such as the "Bibliography" section in the Gus Wingfield page. Maximusveritas 03:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure you want to have the articles rated? I don't think it's neccesary at this point. That's usually only for articles that have been around for a long time and want to be considered for Featured Article status. You should probably try to do some more work on the articles before that. One thing you could try to do is add more citations. This page can help you with that. -Maximusveritas 03:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that's a good decision. The articles you've written are pretty good as is, so moving on to new articles is the way to go. Maximusveritas 15:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

If you would like to insert an image and it hasn't already been uploaded by someone else, you would need to upload a suitable image yourself and then link to it. I don't have much experience with that myself, but you can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/Images_and_media The simplest way to do the template would be to copy one from a related topic. Template:U.S. State Attorneys General would be a good one to look at. I'll go ahead and do that for you, but you'll need to fill in the correct names for each state. Maximusveritas 17:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC) I put the template in Template:U.S. State Auditors instead of Template:State Auditors. Maximusveritas 17:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Projects

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Congress
• Creating the State Auditor's template. Now, I know about 15-20 states don't have a state auditor, but we need to make a template for all that do. I don't know how to format and work the template design, so here's the blank template: Template:State Auditors.

[edit] User_talk:BrownHairedGirl#WP:BIO

Hello, I put {} around the db and prod templates in order to de-tag the talk page for deletion. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 22:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

[edit] Brownhairedgirl

Robert you were repeatedly informed by Brownhairedgirl that any further posting on her talk page would not be welcome at all. Taking this into account would you please remove your posting from the page. Thank you - Galloglass 22:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

That was nearly a year ago. I merely wanted to contact her in order to discuss some things with her and settle whatever problems may have develped between us. And, I do wish you wouldn't mess with my talk page. Things that were deleted were deleted because I did not want to see them every time I came on.--Robert Waalk (talk) 00:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

And, I was not repeatedly asked, I was asked once, and I obliged. I only do so now to get in contact.

If you recall Robert, BrownHairedGirl posted a number of times on her own page in reply to your posts for you to stop posting there as well as the request here. So I ask you again, can you please comply with these requests. - Galloglass 07:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you tell me what other way I may contact her?

Thanks Robert. I think this is the best way to proceed. - Galloglass 18:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

May you offer me someway that I could still contact her when she returns? I do need to talk to her, a polite discussion, and I wish to bury any hatchet and get things worked out between her and the gerontology people before I return to that group.--Robert Waalk (talk) 18:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of "Jim Wood (Arkansas)"

A page you created, Jim Wood (Arkansas), has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, organisation, or web content, but does not indicate why its subject is important or significant.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thank you. Miquonranger03 (talk) 02:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed it, you caught me in the middle of writing the biography that made him important.--Robert Waalk (talk) 05:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of James Hebert "Jimmie Red" Jones

A tag has been placed on James Hebert "Jimmie Red" Jones requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Nancy Hall

A tag has been placed on Nancy Hall requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. role^player 21:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Julia Hughes Jones

A tag has been placed on Julia Hughes Jones requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Woland (talk) 21:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Novels WikiProject

Thanks for all your help with the Novels Collaboration of the Month. Much appreciated. – Liveste (talk • edits) 03:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Books.jpg

Hi, thanks for uploading that book cover, but you had overwritten a previously existing image with your upload, as result that cover featured on Boris Zubry as this guy's portrait:) I've fixed it for you by reuploading it as Image:Thomas Wolfe - Look Homeward, Angel.jpg and updating the article. Next time please don't ignore warnings the system displays during uploads, choosing more descriptive names for images also helps to avoid confusion. And by the way, happy editing! MaxSem^{(Han shot first!)} 13:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Look Homeward Angel - Pogledaj dom svoj andjele

Bio je to prvi, pravi povratak u istoriji jugoslovenskog roka i to najviše zahvaljujući pesmi "Pogledaj dom svoj anđele", koja je tako nazvana po romanu američkog pisca Tomasa Volfa. (Translation: It was the first real comeback in the history of Yugoslav rock, mostly because of the song Look Homeward Angel named after a novel by the American writer Thomas Wolfe.)--EX YU ROCK enciklopedija 1960-2006 (Ex YU Rock Encyclopedia 1960-2006 or Encyclopedia of former Yugoslav Rock 1960-2006), Janjatović Petar; ISBN 978-86-905317-1-4, page 173;

Međutim, potpuno ih je ućutkala pesma "Pogledaj dom svoj anđele" nazvana tako po romanu Tomasa Volfa, a objavljena i u prvoj zbrici pesama Bore Đorđevića pod nazivom "Ravnodušan prema plaču". (Translation: But they were silenced by the song Look Homeward Angel, named so after the Thomas Wolfe's novel, and previously published in Bora Đorđević's first book of poems Listless Towards Crying.--Riblja čorba, Jakovljević Mirko; ISBN 86-83525-39-2, page 60.

This is only something from the two books I own, and I'm quite aware I'll have to find some text on the internet to support theese claims, I just wanted to show to you you're mistaking saying the song probably wasn't named after the novel... I agree with you that the information about Pogledaj, dom svoj anđele being named after Wolfe's novel Look Homeward Angel seems trivial, and in fact the song with its apocalyptical lyrics has nothing in common with the novel except the title, but that information was placed inside the article in the Influences section while the article was still too short. I'm not quite sure if the information should be inside the Look Homeward Angel article, if you think it shouldn't it's Ok with me... And I believe the novel WAS translated into other languages, including Serbian (the translation Pogledaj dom svoj anđele being little unusual, archaic...). Oh, and I just want to know: what did you mean when you wrote that you're "certain it's never been on the shelfs in Serbia"? The fact you're a native speaker of English indicates you don't know much about Serbia, so I think I can guess what you meant... And if it is so, your statement offended me. Ostalocutanje (talk)

I merely did not think that the novel, rather obscure today, had actually been translated into Serbian, which is not a major language.

Ok, ok, understood... It's just that the way you said it, made it sound... well, you know... Ostalocutanje (talk)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008 Project news A Did you know fact from the new article The Masks of Time by Robert Silverberg appeared on the main page on 19 September 2008. Member news Nominations have now commenced for Coordinator Candidates for the Novels Project. Any member of the project may nominate themselves. Nominations close on October 27, so if you wish to run make sure you add your name before then. Details on the election process and the role of Coordinators can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/October 2008. The voting and question phase of the election will open on October 28 and end November 28. After the recent roll call, the Novels Project now has 74 active members. 15 positions still remain unfilled at the Job Centre, members who are interested are encouraged to apply. Pyfan has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Fantasy", "Science fiction" and "Shannara" task forces plus joined the "Style team". the_ed17 has also taken on the position of coordinator for the "Shannara" task force and joined the "Peer Review team". Coordinators are still required for the "Australian", "Chronicles of Narnia", "Crime", "Lemony Snicket" and "Short stories" task forces, which may be applied for at the Job Centre. Task force news A new task force has now commenced under the Novels Project known as the Twilight task force, based on the Twilight series of vampire-based fantasy/romance novels by author Stephenie Meyer. You may join by adding your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force/Participants or contact founder Bella Swan for more details. Member in Focus Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs) has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia. María (habla conmigo) Current debates A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD, so we have been asked to review the articles selected from this project. Revisions are requested before October 20. More details can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum#Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Novel. From the Outreach Department On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month. Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation. Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Steppenwolf (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection on 1 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is The Cater Street Hangman. This is the first published novel by historical detective fiction author Anne Perry whose early life featured in the Peter Jackson movie Heavenly Creatures. Note: This article currently redirects to Thomas Pitt (fictional character).

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 13:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reliable sources

You wrote at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Assessment:

How is book rags not a credible source? I realize its not free for everyone but it is a college lit. study guide seller. There's a double-edge here on wikipedia, everybody wants everything sourced to death, yet no individual knowledge or reserach can be used unless its sourced, (as if a second individual automatically makes everything true), and on these obscure novels and projects normally nothing can be done because the information just does not exist on the web or files of online resources. I don't think you can have such a high standard, but still, book rags is credible, the review is some 20,000 words long and its written by college professors. I think you should take what you can get on these books because some information is better than no informationand its still validated. Its probably the only possible source in existence that I could a thorough and succinct plot review to summarize for purposes of an encylopedia article, since unlike a real encyclopedia, especially a literature one, their can be no individual research or opinion here.--Robert Waalk (talk) 00:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Bookrags.com is not a reliable source as per WP:RS. "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." It may be possible to find reliable sources through Bookrags, but the site itself is a landmine of uncited claims, non-expert original research, and unchecked facts. It has been shot down by Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard more than once. Plot summaries do not technically require citations because the obvious source for an article about a novel is the novel itself. Possible sources may include reviews from established publications (New York Times book reviews, for example) or interviews with the author(s) by a media syndication. Don't think you have to rely on Bookrags, Sparknotes, Enotes, or other refuges for desperate high school students! An encyclopedic article should rely on the most reputable of sources, not the easiest to access. I hope this helps, María (habla conmigo) 00:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

From just a quick Google Books, I found many critical collections, biographies, etc, that mention the novel:

• The Autobiographical Outline for Look Homeward, Angel by Thomas Wolfe, Lucy Conniff, Richard S. Kennedy
• Thomas Wolfe: The Critical Reception by Paschal Reeves
• Thomas Wolfe Interviewed 1929-1938 by Aldo P. Magi, Richard Gaither Walser]

Also check out your local library, or closest university library; mine has 20+ books that popped up with a simple search for the title. Sometimes the best sources are the ones you have to hunt for, but this novel seems to have fairly good coverage. María (habla conmigo) 01:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

well thanks for your help.

Your welcome. I don't know what you mean re: "wikidesk", however. María (habla conmigo) 02:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

You could ask Kevin, but from what I gather it's just a subpage. See WP:USER for info on creating subpages. María (habla conmigo) 00:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Danke.

[edit] Steppenwolf Picture

debate moved to the novels General Forum. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 06:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Onitsha (novel)

You're welcome, although quite a bit of work is still needed. I saw that you added Category:Translations after my edit; this is incorrect, as the article is not about the English translation, it's about the novel itself. If you click on the link to the category, you will see that it is for articles solely about translations, and does not include books that happen to have been translated. The information in the infobox (including the image and publication details) should also reflect the novel's first edition, not the translation. I understand that it's confusing, as this is the English Wikipedia and all, but original editions are inherently more notable, as is their initial publication. I hope this helps, María (habla conmigo) 15:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Novels Collaboration of the Month

You supported The Tin Drum, which has been selected as the Novels WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Month. Please help improve this article towards featured article standard. Alan16 (talk) 23:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Novels Newsletter - June 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009 Member news Coordinators election. An election has been long overdue, and therefore one will begin shortly. If you wish to stand, please put your name in by June 28, when voting will start. Members are encouraged to vote for the candidate they wish to support by July 21 at the Coordinator Elections. The Ed17 has decided not to stand for re-election. His work as Assistant Coordinator, along with Kevinalewis, since the last elections in October is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 128 active members. 17 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only fill a position for a short time. The His Dark Materials task force has been set up, and the role of coordinator has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Project news On April 7, a fact about novelist Karin Bang appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 10, a fact about Pride and Prejudice and Zombies written by Seth Grahame-Smith appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 23, a fact about the protagonist Cousin Betty in Honoré de Balzac's La Cousine Bette appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On April 25, a fact from the article Blanca Olmedo written by Lucila Gamero appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 9, a fact from The Fox and the Hound by Daniel P. Mannix appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 15, a fact from The Road to Yuba City by Tracy Kidder appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. - Contributors are Alan16, (who searched the archives). Task force and related news His Dark Materials task force has begun. This task force is dedicated to improving all articles in the scope of Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. The main purpose of this taskforce is to expand, cite, and promote all articles in scope of the series. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested, drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for the task force has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for seven articles – The Last of the Masters, The Kindly Ones, Flowers for Algernon, World War Z, Sector General, Petals of Blood, and Scenes of Clerical Life. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk) and Alan16 (talk) Member in Focus Hi, I have been a member of this project for a few months now, and after finally gotten to grips with Wikipedia I have decided to take on the role of writing this newsletter (currently by myself, but any help would be appreciated) with some helpful tips from The Ed17. After undertaking this I realise why it was so difficult to keep it going. I will, however, persevere. From the members, I would encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, and take up roles at the Job Centre. The project has struggled recently, and I am hoping to try and revive it. If, with the publication of this newsletter, there are a couple of things that aren't quite up-to-date (like the Collaboration part), you can be certain I am working on it. I will be trying to get a newsletter out on around the 21st of every month. Finally, thanks for the help Ed. Regards, Alan16 (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC) Current debates A Kenneth Oppel task force has been proposed. You can comment here. Oppel is a Canadian author who specialises in Young adult fiction. Novel related news American writer Michael Hemp wins the 2009 Next Generation Indie Book Award in the Action/Adventure category for his novel, The Nadjik Pheromone. From the Outreach Department This is my first attempt at the newsletter, and I hope it at least gets close to the previous high standards set by Kevinalewis and The Ed17. I will once again encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, as I hope it could be the springboard to revitalise the project. I'll keep working on the newsletter, partially because I like the stress, and partially because we need it to get members and would-be members interested. Hopefully the start of great things. Regards, Alan. Collaboration of the Month Because there has been little activity on our Collaboration page for a long time, I have made an executive decision, and chosen The Tin Drum as our Collaboration of the month. All members are asked to assist where they can. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 July, 2009 so nominate and vote. Newsletter challenge This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. It is a previous, uncompleted challenge. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 21 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: Oberon Past and Present • To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City ... Our Collaboration Department is continuing with one more title for the current month: 'The Tin Drum'. Get collaborating on the article and also look at nominating other titles to be considered. Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

[edit] WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election

Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

[edit] Coordinator Election

Hello. The Coordiantor Election has begun. All members are encouraged to vote by the deadline, July 28. To vote simply add support to the comments and questions for.. section of the member of your choice.

3 users are standing:

• Alan16 (talk · contribs)
• Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
• Pmlinediter (talk · contribs)

Regards, Alan16 (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).