Talk:Abseiling
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[edit] possibly defaced?
"Abseilen is also used as a slang expression in German, meaning "to avoid doing something" or even sometimes "to defecate". First one is a common expression among Bundeswehr soldiers."
I'm interested in rock climbing, not supposed ways of nazi swearing. If, by rare chance, this definition is true, it's still not relevant to this subject of Rock climbing. Also, the phrase I am most familiar with is "Rappeling." Perhaps "Rapelling" should be a page of its own, dedicated solely to rock climbing.
- I just removed the whole paragraph, since it contributed essentially nothing to the topic of descending via a rope. However, it turns out that the definition appears to actually be correct; to see this, Google on "scheißen abseilen". Scheißen is a more common German swear expression for defecating. Also, I personally find your equating of "German" and "Nazi" to be much more offensive than the word "defecate". MrRedact 23:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Request for historical elaboration
Disclaimer: I have done little to no editing of Wikipedia. Please excuse me if this is not the proper way of approaching this.
I wonder if those who maintain this article might be persuaded to expand it a bit (assuming that they are more educated in the matter, as I am quite the novice). I came to Wiki to see if I might find more information on the history of rappelling (abseiling) and there is really not much to this article in the way of history.
For instance, I found this rather interesting page (which, by the way, I believe could be incorprated into Wiki): http://www2.uiuc.edu/unit/armyrotc/program/rappelling.html
Moreso than the current Wiki page, this leads to even more historical questions like, how did the term swiss seat catch on (other than the obvious geographical origin) & how about the Australian Rappel (same vein)?
Anyway, if anyone has more information pertaining to this topic, I encourage you to share it, as there is at least one person quite interested in finding out more...
--65.103.143.2 03:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) [crimson30]
Tried to put the history up the best I could.
Geosal 05:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Style
This article is not written as an encyclopedia article but instead as a guide for how to abseil.
Maelgwn 01:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] How to
I moved the howto paragraph here : Talk:Abseiling/Howto -FlubecaTalk 00:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No explanation of technique
Probably because the "how-to" element wasn't appropriate to an encyclopedia, a discussion of technique is missing completely! I came to the page to understand what rappelling is, and I still don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.208.72 (talk) 21:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Absail or Abseil
It is abseiling as opposed to absailing, so would someone plan to absail or abseil. Alexsanderson83 (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] No mention of military applications
Isn't this a widely used technique in the military and by law enforcement officers? Acceptable (talk) 01:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've changed rapelling from a redirect into an article to expand on this technique. bahamut0013♠♣ 17:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Abseiling → Rapelling — Relisting at WP:RM.--Aervanath (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Abseiling → Rapelling — I suggest this page be moved to Rappelling. This is the most common term for this activity and thus the page should be there. TJ Spyke 04:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Abseiling is the name for it in the UK (yes?) and therefore is acceptable. The English Language Wiki covers both American and British usages, and really, whoever gets to it first gets to name the article. (Consider that a VOTE OF NO on renaming the page) Ratagonia (talk) 20:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. Actually that just refers to who gets to choose the language of the article, not the name of the article. The name is determined by WP:NAME. 199.125.109.126 (talk) 03:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- WP:NAME says:
- "National varieties of English
- Convention: All national varieties of English spelling are acceptable in article names. American spellings need not be respelled to British standards, and vice versa; for example, both color and colour are acceptable and both spellings are found in article titles (such as color gel and colour state). However an article title on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the variety of English appropriate for that nation.
- See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English" Ratagonia (talk) 06:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Google gives 529,000 for "rappelling" and 861,000 for abseiling. I think over the english-speaking world, abseiling is the more common usage. Ratagonia (talk) 06:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- WP:NAME says:
- Comment. Actually that just refers to who gets to choose the language of the article, not the name of the article. The name is determined by WP:NAME. 199.125.109.126 (talk) 03:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Unsubstantiated claim doesn't match my experience. No proof, no move. Knepflerle (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose for the reasons given by Ratagonia above Narj (talk) 17:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Here in Britain it is called abseiling. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] Image
Can this image be added to article ?

